Thread: VSID ~ Block B: 2.12: Naruto vs Tobi vs B

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Block B: 2.12 [Naruto vs Tobi vs B]

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~Conditions~

Location :
The destroyed konoha where naruto and pain fought.
They start in a triangle formation with each 20 meters away from the other.

Intent :

Intent to kill. Tobi is not after capturing neither bee nor naruto.

Restrictions/Other conditions :
Tobi has the six jinchuuriki with him, however they are NOT in edo tensei mode, and can be destroyed just like nagato's paths.
They can only go up to V2. No full transformations.
Naruto starts in base mode. And is free to chose whatever mode he wishes. In KM the amount of clones he can make is limited. (5 clones max)
Killer bee has Samehada with him. No restrictions.
All are healthy.

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Intel :

Naruto : They know he's the kyuubi's jinchuuriki and that he has mastered the nine tails chakra which provides him incredible speed boost and power.
They also know that he relies heavily on clones.
Killer bee : They know he's renowned as the "Perfect jinchuuriki" Who has complete mastery over the hachibi. And that since he's from The land of lightning, he's able to use raiton.
Tobi : They know he's the man whose eyes tamed the kyuubi before. They know about the six paths of pain's shared vision. They know that he the 6 bodies with him are the previous jinchuuriki. They also know that he can somehow make himself intangible to avoid attacks.
They all know that the other is a very powerful shinobi.

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I'm going for Naruto high diff.
BUT,it depends on 1 thing........
If Naruto breaks the Jinchuuriki out of Tobi's control then can the Biju help him?

Originally Posted by Master Ace

I'm going for Naruto high diff.
BUT,it depends on 1 thing........
If Naruto breaks the Jinchuuriki out of Tobi's control then can the Biju help him?

No, tobi would just suck the bijuu to gedo mazo like he did in the manga.

Originally Posted by Nassim Boudguiga

No, tobi would just suck the bijuu to gedo mazo like he did in the manga.

And,one more question.....can Tobi use all of the powers that Nagato has shown?
Or only the techniques that he has shown?

im going to give this to naruto Mid-High. in his new Shin-Rikudo mode he was able to over power 5 full biju (for the most part cuz of the incident with 3 tails) Them just being allowed to be in V2 makes this easier for naruto. He will be too fast for any of them. On top of this his rasegans are like much more powerful than in rikudo mode. Full Biju mode lets naruto use Bijudama thats as powerfull as 5 put together.

As for fighting Tobi himself, Since Naruto has beome so fast (even more so in shin-Rikudo mode) He be FTG-like for a distance. and the instant Tobi tries to touch him he can use his speed to get behind him and hit him wiht a rasegan. Similar to what the fourth did to Tobi and what naruto did too 4th Raikage (except he just goes right behind him instead of like 10 meters)

I just can't see Tobi winning this.


also. can tobi use them after they have been sucked up in Gedo Mazo in this thread? This wont change my vote, just make it a high difficulty.

Questions: Does Tobi start off with the Jinchuriki with all of their Bijuu out of Gedo Mazo? Also in this thread do we assume Tobi can use all the paths through the edo jinchuriki and when they die through just himself?
I usually stay away from threads with Naruto or Sasuke but i couldnt resist,

Character to win: Tobi

Reasons:

Tobi vs Bee

When B is in regular to V2 mode; Tobi's jinchuriki would overpower Bee on his own in regular mode, their individual techniques as well as the fact that they can all see through each others eyes means that B needs to go Haichibi mode. In response the Jinchuriki would go V2 and attempt to fight Haichibi mode Bee. Tobi could summon Gedo Mazo in order to help restrain the Haichibi. Each of the jinchuriki then attack Bee simultaneously so he cannot react to all of them wile being held down by Gedo Mazo (which is larger), Tobi would then sneak up through the ground beside him and draw him into his alternate dimension.

Tobi wins (mid difficulty)

Bee vs Naruto

Considering B is likley to go into Haichibi Mode in order to trump Naruto's KM mode, Naruto would go into his latest mode that he has shown, i dont know what its called so ill just call it 'Perfect Kyubi Mode'? (for the purpose of this thread ill just use that name to describe it, as it IS the KM mode, only it is perfected due to the full cooperation of the Kyubi). Once in this mode Naruto trumps B in Haichibi mode as the Kyubi has 9 tails to manipulate and attack Bee with, the Haichibi only has 8, meaning 8 of the Kyubis tails would grab the Haichibis tail and prevent them from being used and then use the other tail to attack.
Also, Naruto's Bijuu Dama is much bigger than anything we have seen from Bee before (being exactly or aproximatley equal to the combined bijuu dama of 6 jinchurikii). Finaly Naruto is able to remain outside the Kyubii and creat clones wile in PKM, therefore giving him even more of an edge against Bee.

Naruto wins (high-difficulty)

Tobi vs Naruto

To begin with, Tobi would use the jinchuriki like he did against B, although Naruto wouldnt have such a hard time as Bee had due to the use of clones. Once Naruto goes into Perfect Kyubi Mode the bijuu are not as usefull, although would still help to try and hold down Naruto along with Gedo Mazo. Although it is debatable that they would be able to subdue the Kyubi as well as they could the kyubi as he apears to be much stronger and faster than the Haichibi. Naruto is able to last in this mode for a total of 5 minutes, quoted from Naruto and the Kyubi themselves however we also know that Tobi is able to remain intangible for 5 minutes, quoted from Konan and confirmed by Tobi's reaction. This means that worst comes to worst, Tobi could just draw in all the Jinchuriki during Naruot's PKM to prevent them from injury and remain intangible for the entirety of the 5 minutes, he would then bring out the jinchuriki to either kill or subdue a regular naruto, or he could do it himself and use his intangibility tech to appear from the ground behind him and absorb him into his dimension.

still considering Tobi has one more ace up his sleeve after even this (a perfect Izanagi) Tobi wins (mid-diff)

Conclusion
Overall, Tobi wins convincingly, although i think Naruto was a good challenge given the speed and strength and ability to overcome the V2 Jinchuriki however once that mode ends, its likley Naruto reverts back to regular mode, becuase it would mean the Kyubi is out of chakra thus no more KM mode either. The only thing he would have left would be SM mode, however it requires him to stand still, which is not going to happen here.

Sorry but Tobi's Jinchuriki Power Rangers take this plus there's no Rikudo Mode for Naruto so I gotta give it to Tobi, High difficulty

Originally Posted by UndeadninjaXx

It says any mode he wishes so that includes Shin-Rikudo Mode as well

that can be defeated by Rinnegan:
Shinra Tensei-Can blow him away.
Preta Path-If Tobi grabs him,then he can suck out his chakra and gain a MAJOR energy boost.
Animal Path-Multiple Summons.
Human Path-If he grabs Naruto/Bee he wins.
Asura Path-Most useful(besides Deva path)
Chibaku Tensei-Hard to defeat.

Plus S/T jutsu and Jinchuurik.
I think that Tobi takes this.