hmmm....

[zeker KiLLeR]

ya know... I'm starting to think that IJN- I mean FOG Yamato's mental core is DAT GIRL our awesome captain's being an emo bastard about...

it will also be awesome should the ff. appear in order to complete an entire fleet...

several destroyers
an aircaft carrier (in a combat fleet, shouldnt there be an aircraft carrier in the middle?)
some medium to heavy cruisers (Takao is a heavy cruiser, right?)
Iowa class battleship (I think I heard Bismarck somewhere in Shouzou's lines so I hope THIS class be thar)
AEGIS cruisers

[Dragonovo Rifle]

There are already destroyers, battleships and such. But the aircraft carriers, can Mental Models control planes alone?

[ThetaGraphics]

Well, Iona can make chibi copies of herself, so it wouldn't be too far fetched if a Carrier mental model could make copy pilots...


Who is Yamato talking to at the end of chapter 19?

[maxxus0923]

ya know... I'm starting to think that IJN- I mean FOG Yamato's mental core is DAT GIRL our awesome captain's being an emo bastard about...

it will also be awesome should the ff. appear in order to complete an entire fleet...

several destroyers
an aircaft carrier (in a combat fleet, shouldnt there be an aircraft carrier in the middle?)
some medium to heavy cruisers (Takao is a heavy cruiser, right?)
Iowa class battleship (I think I heard Bismarck somewhere in Shouzou's lines so I hope THIS class be thar)
AEGIS cruisers

hmmm... there's no Aegis cruisers at this time... i think you're pertaining to Atlanta Class Light Cruiser...


there are several type of fleets to begin with FF.
Assault fleet
Defense Fleet
Strike Fleet

an assault fleet would compose heavy ships Such as fleet carriers, Super battleships with heavy escorts and heavy submarine support for recon. just like the 1st combined fleet.

defense fleet will be a well rounded fleet from frigates to heavy cruisers.... however it has integral part capital ships such as Fleet carriers and Sub capital Battleships. This are the type of fleet Kriegsmarine and Royal navy typically fields during world war I and II

Strike fleet will compose of high speed ships packed with so much fire power however this fleet is composed of lightly armored ships to compensate with speed. Fast carriers and battle cruisers is a normal sight in this kind of fleet with 1-2 submarines for recon. this kind of fleet is norm for USN as they rely on fast and precision strikes.

[zeker KiLLeR]

hmmm... there's no Aegis cruisers at this time... i think you're pertaining to Atlanta Class Light Cruiser...


there are several type of fleets to begin with FF.
Assault fleet
Defense Fleet
Strike Fleet

an assault fleet would compose heavy ships Such as fleet carriers, Super battleships with heavy escorts and heavy submarine support for recon. just like the 1st combined fleet.

defense fleet will be a well rounded fleet from frigates to heavy cruisers.... however it has integral part capital ships such as Fleet carriers and Sub capital Battleships. This are the type of fleet Kriegsmarine and Royal navy typically fields during world war I and II

Strike fleet will compose of high speed ships packed with so much fire power however this fleet is composed of lightly armored ships to compensate with speed. Fast carriers and battle cruisers is a normal sight in this kind of fleet with 1-2 submarines for recon. this kind of fleet is norm for USN as they rely on fast and precision strikes.

strange, the only heavy battleships I could have remembered are the Kriegsmarine Bismarck, IJN Yamato (I believe this thing is a superheavy), HMS battleships with DAT FOUR GUN TURRET (whats it called again?) and USS battleships.

btw whats the actual use of a frigate in naval combat? if I can remember, it can match a normal battleship in terms of guns, but armor is for high speed maneuvers and NOT punishment.

for sure I thought of part of the heavy sub is included in the strike fleet with the other smaller subs.

[scottrf88]

Sorry but the Bismarck wasn't a Battleship but I understand why you would think it was a battleship. Tomany sites online list it wrong. But it was a Super Cruiser or Battle Cruiser not a Battleship. It is odd how many pages list the Bismarck wrong I guess just so many people think it was a battleship that no ones gone back to fix that mistake. The HMS Hood was a Battle Cruiser not a Battleship but it's not got as many sites listing it wrong. As for the Super Battleships or Heavy Battleships your thinking of the Yamato. That is the Only Battleship to wear the Name Super Battleship. No other Battleship has ever been as big as the Yamato.

Frigates were smaller then a destoryers and They are designed primarily to protect other ships (such as merchant convoys), and perform some Anti-Submarine Warfare duties

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strange, the only heavy battleships I could have remembered are the Kriegsmarine Bismarck, IJN Yamato (I believe this thing is a superheavy), HMS battleships with DAT FOUR GUN TURRET (whats it called again?) and USS battleships.

btw whats the actual use of a frigate in naval combat? if I can remember, it can match a normal battleship in terms of guns, but armor is for high speed maneuvers and NOT punishment.

for sure I thought of part of the heavy sub is included in the strike fleet with the other smaller subs.

frigates duty is to escort ships bigger than her and hunt down enemy subs which they epicly failed during the world war II... however french Corvette(frigate) succeeded on that task... in the end... escort duties are still under destroyers

well... her firepower out guns HMS hood... as well as defence... thats why she's rendered as battleship... i agree theres only one class of super battleship... the Yamato class... well if the war waged on... we would have seen super yamato with unrivaled anti air power and will out gun an entire fleet

[zeker KiLLeR]

wait, what? I thought the Bismarck belonged to the Bismarck class battleship designs, but is it classed as a heavy cruiser with all that firepower and armor that could take out the Hood?. I can understand that HMS Hood was a friggin' battlecruiser, but I thought that some of them HMS battleships had that four gun turret thing... inb4 HMS Rodney (Nelson class) design caught my eye.

man I still cant believe the IJN Yamato. all that gun and never experience....

EDIT:
my suspicions were correct. Destroyers were mostly common when fighting subs. A standard frigate's arms (correct me plox) were usually destroyer level guns, some depth charges and a LOT of Sonar radar scanners (or am I mistaking this configs for a minesweeper?)

[maxxus0923]

wait, what? I thought the Bismarck belonged to the Bismarck class battleship designs, but is it classed as a heavy cruiser with all that firepower and armor that could take out the Hood?. I can understand that HMS Hood was a friggin' battlecruiser, but I thought that some of them HMS battleships had that four gun turret thing... inb4 HMS Rodney (Nelson class) design caught my eye.

man I still cant believe the IJN Yamato. all that gun and never experience....

EDIT:
my suspicions were correct. Destroyers were mostly common when fighting subs. A standard frigate's arms (correct me plox) were usually destroyer level guns, some depth charges and a LOT of Sonar radar scanners (or am I mistaking this configs for a minesweeper?)

to begin with... frigates we're too light for escort duties in atlantic..... thats why they fail... 2nd is that frigates doesnt have the anti air fire power a destroyer has... 3rd it can't strain its engine like a destroyer does... 4th they have very weak sonar...

[scottrf88]

The Bismarck had 2 guns per turret ( Battleship sized guns) Thats why she was thought of as a Battleship. The Germans after WWI had agreed to not build Battleships anymore. The Germans said that the Bismarck was a Liner when they first started building the haul to hide the fact they were building a large ship for war. It wasn't until they put her decking on that everyone knew the Germans lied and was building a Large Ship for War. Her Size is Battlecruiser or Heavy cruiser (Is why she only has 2 guns per turret) But they did put the Biggest guns they could on it and more armor in the right places then the Hood. The Hood had smaller guns then the Bismarck and they redesigned the Hood While they were building it so they kept adding and removing key items. The Hood was Always known to have less Armor then she needed but before she could get the Refit the Bismarck hunt started. The Hood was always meant to go back and get more Armor on her Decks just to bad they waited to long for that refit to take place.
I don't think even with more Armor the Hood would have won that battle. That was one hell of a Lucky Shot the Bismarck got. It even Shocked the hell out of them seeing the Hood burst into flames so quickly.

You might dislike Frigates but their main jobs for war time is escort and sub hunts. Just because you don't like them or that fact they might have sucked at it doesn't mean that wasn't their main goal. Destroyers were better at it but the Frigates supported the Destroyers.