Wow Deja Vu! the same plot again

[jadestalk18]

Dear Saint seiya friends, i have a strange feeling of deja vu reading this manga!

it seems to me Kurumada has no new ideas.

1. the POPE tries to assasinate baby athena.( WOW original! or i think i saw something like that before somewhere?)
2. Baby athena suddenly saved by a Gold Saint.( just a shift from zodiac instead of sagitarius this time Virgo is the hero)
3.Pisces Gold Saint a traitor (wel Pisces again who would have imagined!)

Now it wouldnt surprise me if the Gemini Saint is also again a double personality Traitor, but we wil have to wait till manga fox uploads the other chapters.

[Haldir]

Heard of History repeat itself?

Even Lost Canvas play around with this Context, some times as a Homage to the Classic Series tho' the way it replayed was done in a much better way and of course, we get a Hell lots more story currently compared to ND.

The addition of Khronos and events happening in the current Era (20th Century) is very interested tho' and brand new so that is a positive point for ND.

[Veii-chan]

LOLOL it is. Deja-vu much......

Now it wouldnt surprise me if the Gemini Saint is also again a double personality Traitor, but we wil have to wait till manga fox uploads the other chapters.

It's not even a spoiler at this point, is it. XD

Kurumada just keeps recycling ideas haha. It can be good in some ways as it's like a history loop lol..... however, I hope that Chronos plays a bigger part in the plot and causes some interesting plot devices, also

it seems like Artemis gets some more plot later on too.

here's hoping he actually manages to introduce some nice fresh new ideas alongside all the almost-Generation-Xerox. XD;

[Kryokori]

even in our "real world" history just keeps repeating itself XD when we speak of wars, politics or simple fashion and trends
so why not? at last it's proper continuation - and for me "official SaintSeiya-universe plot"
and we can see previous goldies!! :3~

Even Lost Canvas play around with this Context, some times as a Homage to the Classic Series tho' the way it replayed was done in a much better way and of course, we get a Hell lots more story currently compared to ND.

PLEAS!!
don't even compare it to Lost Canvas!
for me - that thing is a fanfiction! I stopped reading that when I saw all the goldies!!
if I wanted to read "new adventures of our old goldies" or "see more fanart of goldies" - I would go to fanfiction.net or deviantart, not read that thing!
the whole idea of "reincarnation" is so **** retarded! OK! so each gold was reincarnation of his next goldiness - but wtf they need to look THE SAME!! and wtf - if it was so true, then Mu would be reincarnation of Shion! and Kiki could be reincarnation of Mu - since he's the closest thing on earth to wearing that cloth XD

and I much more prefer to see our old Athena busted by Kronos, than seeing again flower and candies in new one XD

[Fantasy-Magician]

LC is doujinshi, an official one at least. Don't blame the appereance of all gold saints look alike since... the story is written by tenshirogi and she is a FAN of SS! She pretty much doing a good things with that since we don't have to deal with OC as in completely new character aside from few characters that original for LC. And you see she didn't copy gold saint's character down to earth from classic SS.To be honest I can see WHY she did that and not really retarded in my opinion~ some fans even prefer LC over ND for a reason.

Yeah her reason for putting up reincarnation and expy from classic SS is pretty much what a fanfiction writer would do, it's easier to work on character that already avaible rather than making OC that might end up SUE-ish. Try read LC again (I suggest you do) and you will find it's enjoyable with newer style of storytelling compared to classic and ND.

Sad thing when Kurumada-sensei managed to improve his artwork his storytelling is still like that~ So far it's fine Gemini saint have double personality and I see it might be slightly different kind of issue compared to Saga's, and maybe deeper background since it's like a curse for gemini saint. The Pope want to kill Athena... not original but I can live with that as I think it' important for the plot. Cardinale being evil is also logical due to being pisces his temple is the closest so he is the first to arrive ly one who get the feeling something is not right I guess...
Taurus saint getting killed easily... and died standing (if by any chance holy wars before 18th century is written we can start drinking game over this) and then Taurus saint can get crowned as Leomon of Saint Seiya (Guy who get killed in every season)

[Kryokori]

that's why it's fanfiction for me
but I can blame the appereance of all golds - since those are not the same people - it is for me a foult of an artist to not consider such totally obvious thing - like making some changes in appereance to make it more interesting as to see gold saint but not the same - but the previous ones
I am a FAN of SS myself - for years.. been a long time I was in SS fandom in my country and was lurking around it in times java'scripts weren't spotted on the net XD
and that's the reason why I feel big dissapointment from LC - the artist might be doing a relatively good thing - but could really easy do much better - what I'm dissapointed is - why didn't she choose to do so and stayed on the "relatively" lvl
if she was aiming for creating something with the same characters - she should not bother to write in the previous era timeline - but Kurumada gave her few pointers and she just mixed two things up - to much focusing on the 'future' forgot it's the 'past'
some fans prefer LC over ND world wide for more reason you think, but probably forgot or ignored XD or are just not aware of

Yeah her reason for putting up reincarnation and expy from classic SS is pretty much what a fanfiction writer would do

you mean - an average fanfiction writer, right? when I started reading LC - I was preparing for something above - and that's where I met my dissapointment - something that got so popular was just average and hit the eyes of fans who come long before Hades avi was made XD

Um' I find ND very enjoyable.. and the storytelling fragnance I feel from LC is shojou.. or to much similarity with it
I'm not teen'fangirl to be into sharp lines and absence of details and lack of naturalism - I'm one of those who prefer smoth and detailed works - what I found in LC was not enjoyable but predictable

you know - I find it rather amusing you so much adore LC that you forgot it's on 222+ chapter and even got anime based on it - but ND is like just starting and the plot is not yet revealed or even developed

no wonder LC plot is sooo much greater, huh?

I'm still the fan of original and classic SS - who prefer high quality of fandom over low and average and if some fanfiction was to be written by me - I always prepare ten times to much details and information to work on before I began writing - than prepare half to few XD

[Haldir]

Why do everyone forget about the Seiya = ND Tenma part?

Kurumada was the one who introduced the reincarnation idea by stating both in the Classic Series and ND that the Pegasus Saint is reborn at every Holy War to fight alongside Athena so not surprise it was pick up to the max in LC.

And I won't be surprise the whole Gold Saint reincarnation is actually Kurumada's idea, given to Shiori to use but he changed it in ND when he realized some fans dun like it. Remember that the Gold Saints appeared way first in LC than ND so Kurumada got time to redo his ideas. (and for God's sake, Pandora is wearing the SAME Outfit and Accessories in the Classic Series and in ND except her skirt in ND is fully pleated)


And ya, Summer is here and no ND Chapters. Shonen Jump and Kurumada probably means Spring 2012 at the rate of no New ND Chapter still.

[Enki17]

Can't the Bronze Saints at least use what little knowledge they have to avert all this repetition though? And seriously, Shun has a Kamui, but still can't do shit? He can defeat gods that crushed Gold Cloths into dust, but he's having trouble getting through the temples?

[SILENTANIMELOVER]

He doesn't have a Kamui anymore right now. After their battle with Hades, the Bronze Saints' Cloths reverted back to normal.

[jubah]

rememeber Shun is not trying to kill anyone either - Shion is a faithful gold saint. The first 'challenge' he had was now, the cancer saint - and he was able to come back from his underworld transportation withouth any trouble!
I am enjoying it too as much as it sounds a lot like the previous holy war - but just the fact the characters are different are already making it enjoyable for me.

Also I like the new cancer saint so much! What an excentric guy hahaha.